In Reply to: I thought you'd understand some of it posted by cliff on Wednesday, 3. August 2005 at 17:38 Bali Time:
Hey everybody this is in reply to a posting from Cliff
"You are advocating the perpetuation of a culture wherein men must be big and strong and do whatever they like whenever they wish regardless of the consequences, and women should stay silent whether or not they disagree."
Firstly, we are NOT perpetuating a culture wherein men must be big and strong, if we were doing that we would be a bunch of thugs looking for fights, not a group of 19 year olds looking to bust out with a bit of karaoke or dare i say a nude run for a laugh.
Second, if we were doing whatever we like whenever we wish regardless of the consequences, we would not have made a post on a forum asking what the consequences of taking this action would be.
Thirdly, Both men and women use this forum and we did not address the question only to men. We are therefore not advocating that women should stay silent whether or not they disagree.
"If you can't see any connection between justifying offensive (and likely abusive) behaviour and justifying physically offensive and abusive behaviour, look harder."
Again, we are a normal group of 19 year old's,we don't go out and beat up women and children. Yes we might offend a few people doing a nude run or skinny dipping late at night, but who here never at least went skinny dipping in their younger days.
As for abusive behaviour I have this question. Who do you think would most likely be the violent person? The young fun-loving guy in a good mood at a party resort, or the grumpy tightarse who will only chill-out when people on an overseas holiday keep their "voices down."
And finally how would you rather Australians be percieved, as a bunch of fun-loving larrikins who every once in a while push the boundaries or people who say things like this when they talk about a holiday in KUTA "If everyone keeps their pants on and their voices down, I'll chill out."
I really hope Cliff that you are in the minority.
Cheers
The bali 8